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Dos and Don'ts in Thailand

Thai culture, like other cultures, has its taboos as well as conventions. www.khaosanroad.com invites you to help each other and learn from each others' mistakes. Tell us about your experiences, give advice, and learn from others.


 

DO ensure you have adequate travel insurance and that it covers both medical treatment and unexpected losses/expenses/theft.

DON'T carry anything through customs for anyone else unless you know the contents. Penalties for drug trafficking are severe.

DO follow common sense health precautions and check with your local doctor on current vaccination recommendations for travelling within Thailand.

DO take care of your valuables at all times and report any loss immediately to the nearest tourist police office.

DON'T buy gemstones or jewellery unless it is from a reputable dealer. Many sophisticated scams have sprung up over recent years. Whether the tout is dressed as a student, a monk or a policeman, identity card and all deal only with a registered gemstone dealer.

DO be careful with your passport. Be on guard against pickpockets or inadvertent loss.

DON'T overstay. Fines are imposed for each day you stay in Thailand beyond the date of the visa expiry, currently Baht 200 per day.

DO be careful when driving in Thailand. Only use car hire companies which offer full insurance coverage.

DO dress in a manner fitting to local custom and sensibilities.

DO respect Thai customs. While Thais are generally forgiving towards visitors disrepect towards images of Buddha or the Royal Family will not be tolerated.

Avoid Hassle!

Fred writes: "The first time I came to Thailand, I met an English guy on the plane, who was married to a Thai and lived in Chiang Mai. He told me to come with him, as there would be a lot of people in the arrivals hall vying for my business. He first took me to the cafe in the airport for coffee, while we waited for the crowds to clear. While there, he went to the shop and bought 20 Krong Tip (Thai cigarettes). He then got out his English `Benson & Hedges`, emptied all the Krong Tip into a bin and refilled the empty packet with his Benson & Hedges. He told me that when we went out that evening people would see that he was smoking Krong Tip and assume that he was at the end of his holiday and had little or no money. If they see you with English cigarettes, people know you have just arrived and have lots of money. That evening he took me to Pat Pong for a drink or two. Sure enough, the girls there left us alone and concentrated on the `Farangs` with foreign cigarettes who had just arrived..."

Don't do it!

Nick (Nick_hermann@hotmail.com) writes: "I was invited for dinner in the North of Thailand, by a bunch of road workers camping near their construction site. They seemed to be VERY poor, but when offered money when we were about to leave, they freaked a little. So in the end we left 'em two packs of American cigarettes, which they took gratefully. So if you're invited and aren't allowed to pay, maybe bring a gift or sth." That's good advice...

Josh sent us this:

"I'm not sure if there is a fixed etiquette about this but it's my custom to do this. " This so perfect I can't even begin to explain. Non-thais often want situations to be static. In thailand it is better to go with the flow. A related subject: If you need a polite way to say "no thank you" for any invitation to food or drink, by far the best reply in such circumstances is, "Thank you very much but I have eaten already" - if that does not work the first time say it again a few times. Just be nice about it and smile. If you haven't just eaten, don't think this is dishonest, but rather think of it as a Thai idiom."

Perfect...

Owen Vasey (vman54@hotmail.com) and his pals from Gapyear.com give us their version of the Thailand Top Ten...

1. Read up on Thailand - get a rough guide or a lonely planet. With out ours we would have been pretty lost!

2. Book your first night; spend a bit more than you usually would (6-7 pounds) choose somewhere nice. e.g. Viengtai or Buddy Lodge.

3. Bring the bare minimum of clothes, you don't want to be lugging loads about and anything you don't have and need they will have here.

4. At the airport just head out and get a yellow and green metre taxi there about a third of the price of those available at the airport.

5. Take a while to settle in, you don't need to rush anywhere. It takes a while to get acclimatized.

6. Only take Tuk Tuks if you know exactly where you're going. Do try one though they are indeed an experience!!

7. Buy train tickets direct from the station not from tourist info places or travel agents. One place tried to charge us 500 Bart for a 25 Baht journey!

8. Everything works out in the end, don't stress about accommodation or transport or even where you're going next. In the end it all sorts itself out.

9. Find out about bus services - get a map. They're cheap and quickish!

10. Don't be afraid to ask other people where they've been and what's worth going to see. It really is invaluable information to have.

Well that all from us for now we're now off to the full moon party!!!

Take care Owen, Ollie, and Mark.

 

Wise words

"Don`t go to Go-go bars. Most of these women are not there by their own choice.."

"Although it seemed to me a perfectly natural thing to do, if you are invited to have a meal with a group of Thais, my advice is DON'T offer to pay your share! I went out with some Thai guys and it was clear they were pretty insulted when I said I would go Dutch (which strangely enough is apparently called 'an American share' in Thailand). I am not 100% clear just what upset them so much, but some people tell me the oldest person at the table is supposed to pay. Is this right?"

Mike Smith, Aberdeen, Scotland

Your comments:

The usual rule in Thailand is that the person who does the inviting gets to pay the whole bill, unless it is agreed from the beginning that you will share the cost. Thais do have a habit of assuming westerners have money to burn and many will assume that the rich foreigner will be happy to pay. It's all a bit of a game - when they invite you, just say thanks, but I can't afford it. If they say, no problem, we'll pay, then go. Don't invite anyone for a drink or food unless you know you can afford it!

Richard, Bangkok, Thailand richardw@thaicom.net


"The experience you had was the exact opposite of the one I had. I was invited out for a meal by some Thai guys and when then bill came there was a lull in conversation and heads nodding my way! I was left with a bill I didn't have money for and I had to pay by credit. And it cost an arm and a leg! It pissed me right off to tell you the truth."
Gary Baker, Cheshire, United Kingdom.

Anyone got the facts behind this? Just what is the truth about table etiquette in this situation?
Let us know! Click to reply...


We received this reply from Disainam in Germany:

"It's a question, about you and your contacts. If you are the eldest, or the one with a higher social standing, they expect, that you pay the bill (if it wasn't just a simple farang rip off game). If you are in a group of Thais who think that they are on a higher social position, they would pay. If you reject this, you say, I don't want to have you in command, I'll go Dutch (I pay my half, I don't accept that you are on a higher position). On the other hand, if you let them pay, they expect, that you also play your part in the 'phi nong' game."

Thanks for that, but what exactly is the 'phi nong' game?


We received this reply from 'DB' in Cyberspace:

"The replies here have been wide of the mark. The custom is that the one who does the inviting foots the bill. For one to invite a guest and then allow him to even get a sniff of the tab is bad form -- this sounds more like a scam or deliberate insult than anything else."

Why you serious too much?

We received this reply from Su in Bangkok:

Well, I think it depends on what kind of people you met. I mean normally, we will treat the foreigners as our guests. So we will pay for them or if it's too expensive, we will have American Share. I'm not sure if there is a fixed etiquette about this but it's my custom to do this.

George writes: "Weeeeell, speaking to a couple of Thai's on the subject of "who pays?" It comes down to this....you invite, you pay! If you want to have an "american share" then sort it out before you enter the restaurant so as to minimise loss of face all around! But! Please understand, you are there to entertain, so do your bit! Help 'em laugh."

Mark writes: "What is 'Phi Nong'? -- as I've learned it, Phi (abbreviated as P' when written) means something along the lines of the Western "big brother"; someone who will take care of and guide a younger person, or Nong (N')... but I've come to think that it also has roots in the family structure, also, truly meaning "older" and "younger" in matters of siblings. I mentor a few in Thailand in English and am sometimes addressed in emails as "P'Mark" As to Who Pays, it's been a mixed bag for me. Yes, I agree that the basic culture is that Falangs have more money so can better afford to pick up a tab, but anyone with eyes can see that the Thai are a hospitable and gracious people, sometimes to a fault. I have (on a couple of unavoidable occasions)had Thai friends insist on paying for expenses that I know cost several week's salary for them, and have then had to find a way to get it BACK to them after the fact without them "losing face." I'm not saying let yourself get walked on, but I'd suggest considering who you're dealing with at the time and be more than fair... God knows the Thai usually are."

 
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